We are helpless

Unless you "know"( knowledge matching with your action effortlessly) "what you are not", everything else has no meaning.

Birth,growth,breathing,sleep,digestion,blood circulation, etc. and finally death. This is the whole film of all expressions of life including humans. None of these things which is vital for the life to express itself, is in anyone's hand. Everything is happening on its own effortlessly. It means every expression is helpless in a sense. Humans are also as helpless as other forms of life but because of perceptions of imaginary instrument called 'mind' and accordingly go on trying to become something other than what he/she is.

“WHY DO WE NEED DISCUSSION AT ALL”

I had asked -------“WHY DO WE NEED DISCUSSION AT ALL”

Let me try to explain it.

Truth as we know is always relative. Forget the so called spiritual Truth for the time being.

What is the meaning of truth? ----It simply means that “after knowing which the desire to know/understand that thought “fades away/is no more there”. It is like fading away of thought of hunger (feeling hungry no more) after having meal. This applies to all truth including spiritual one, if there is any.

Just for the purpose of understanding I am considering following types of truths. Please bear with me.

1. Conceptual truth—Which has no existence of its own but are very helpful in communication. Example- All alphabets/words/phrases/senten​ces. The alphabets/words/sentences are interpretations by the brain cells of various impulses being continuously involuntarily (nobody has control over that) fed to the brain cells. Hence whatsoever has been spoken or written on any subject till date are concepts only. All experiences, howsoever holy they may be, without any exception are interpretations of brain only which get expressed later on in the form of thoughts. This also generally does not require discussion much. But updating must go on.

2. Objective truth—The things which can directly or indirectly be perceived by sense organs. They are existential truth and normally do not require discussion.

3. Logical truth — The results which are very much objective truth but how it has arrived/resulted are not known at all. To understand this situation (how) there come a no. of theories/principles/concepts with the help of which we try to logically understand the process/path involved. Whether these conceptual principles are correct or not is immaterial. This mostly applies to science and also in day to day discussion when we try to guess.

4. Agreed truth- This covers our languages/expressions of communication. For example --This is tree, this is sun, and moon, air, etc. like that — This normally does not require discussion.

5. Localised truth— The thoughts agreed between two or more but not accepted by all.

6. Universal truth—The thoughts which have been accepted by the human as a whole. This does require discussion from time to time as updating. This normally does not require discussion.


Now come to the point:

Is it not true that without the activities of brain cells neither anything can be experienced nor expressed as sound or written words or in any way like that ?
Is it not true that none of the desires is ours? They are just subtle expressions (in the form of reactions) of life itself which is expressed in response to outer/inner circumstances surrounding our bodies?

Does it not appear that all what we are discussing are only because of the training imparted to the brain cells?

Is it not true that in all the states of awareness(except deep sleep state i.e. non-REM sate) we are "unconsciously/unknowingly" engaged in trying to "get rid of/free ourselves from" thoughts/desires (spiritual thoughts/desires included) by way of fulfilling those thoughts/desires which are continuously welling up/appearing in our 'mind/consciousness' ?"

Take simple examples to understand this happening.

In the morning after waking up "a thought" related to "having a cup of tea" appears and it gets expressed when we ask somebody “whether tea is ready?” If the answer comes “yes” then that thought (“having a cup of tea”) gets annihilated/fulfilled and we become free from that thought/desire.

If answer comes “no” then another thought appears and gets expressed as “what is the problem?” It (the next thought) again gets annihilated/fulfilled by another answer and we become free from that thought/desire again.

This series of processes (appearing of thoughts/desires--expressing/t​hinking of thoughts/desires--getting freedom/relieved from thoughts/desires) goes on continuously without any break even for a second/ moment as long as we are awake or in dream, albeit without we being/remaining aware of such happening.


CONCLUSIONS:


Purpose:

1. The whole purpose of discussion (inside means thinking or outside means interacting with others) on any thought is to come to a common understanding (when one does not feel the need of more thinking or interacting as one feels satisfied because the force behind the desire to understand comes to not) so that one gets/finds oneself free from the action of that particular thought, albeit most of the time we are not aware about this desire of getting freedom. But this is temporary relief from discussion because in view of some better inputs later on this may get started again and may come to a temporary end again. This series of start and end continue.

2. But the problem with so called spiritual or religious thoughts is that they being perhaps purely conceptual and subjective/individual cannot survive without discussion and are never ending too. This gives the maximum ego satisfaction and so called never ending so called bliss/ananda/ etc.

3. “””Hence truth does not require discussion and which is not truth cannot survive/exist without discussion.””

Nisargadatta Maharaj talks about Osho

Nisargadatta Maharaj talks about Osho


(Apparently in response to a question about Osho) 


SNM:

"Rajneesh(Osho) is not a small personality or small principal".

"He is tremendous."

"He is very big."

"He is a great sage."





From " Consciousness and the Absolute: " --Chapter Sixty One. June Nine, 1981.

There once was a bird.

There once was a bird.

By Ana Margarida Henriques

This was not any one bird.

I lived up there, above the clouds, higher than any living being could reach.

Their home made ice.

The bird was so hot, so hot that the snow was the only place I could be without com bust.

The legend says that the phoenix was burned a few hundred years in hundreds of years and rose from its ashes, as the original: resplendent and without memory.

But the bird did not know it, there was no time for her, did not know what was memory: it simply Era

She did not even know existed, had never seen any other being.

Their white feathers blended into the whiteness of the snow, playing with the drops of color of clouds and thin rays of the sun and stars crossed over your body.

She just thought it was an integral part of this magnificent spectacle of ethereal light.

There were rare occasions when the little star gazing into his eyes in deep reflection in the snow and, for a moment, remembering the night.

On full moon nights she felt light strands pull her into the air and flew down out of space in that light.

Turning formless and weightless, free, hear the music of the stars in pure ecstasy and let out a piercing shriek.

From the other side of the moon howling wolf.

This was just a wolf.

Born from the pack, had a hard life trying to survive, always learning the price of life in his body.

But do not think of these facts I mean any wolf.

What made this particular wolf was love that brought the chest, so great that led him to overcome his own pain.

So loved the moon that always wanted to see it closer.

Especially on the full moon.

It was at this point that wolves are separated from the pack and sought solitude.

In this solitude, the company under the moon confessed their pain: the harshness of life, the difficulty of managing the wills in the pack and his tremendous apprehension by dearest, your heaven and your hell.

Faced with such pressure that was on his chest and that accumulated at these times, the magnetism of the moon intensified these feelings so that the poor wolves fled to confront the nakedness of the moon and scream.

The older wolf was greater intensity of emotions that prespassavam your flesh like knives and tore his chest an infinite scream that echoed in the face of the moon.

Once emptied, cleaned of all emotions, returned to their loved ones in a halo of joy.

All wolves liked the full moon, especially this.

He had lost everything: pack, wolf, little ones.

What kept him alive was the moon, why he loved her so much he wanted to see her ever closer.

I wanted to tell him how much he loved her, howling their pain, open your heart and then zealously guard its rays of hope and joy that used parsimoniously over time until the reunion.

When he was about to reach the moon wolf skirt ago.

They spent many months on their feet until the wolf might realize that walking away was not a solution: it was not closer and the moon was not greater.

Then I decided to climb the mountains.

Rose growing, and, though he could not see the moon covered by clouds felt their magnetism at heart.

Your tired body was whipped by the cold mountain air but his heart was always getting warmer.

It was like a magma of violent emotion twisting and turning knocking thin walls of his chest to erupt.

He knew that his body was becoming too fragile to contain this growing avalanche as he climbed the mountain and that could kill.

It was the most excitement for the carcass of a simple wolf.

But still followed, between gasping between each step a ton of snow and buried in a rhythm of your heart crazy.

At each step blinded by fog, in an act of pure faith among the escarpment managed to reach the peak to look at the moon exactly one minute and thirty seven seconds before dropping his last howl.

Packaged in Wolf Howl wires touched the light bristling wolf, one after another until his coat stay fully illuminated by the moonlight.

In that brief moment, that it was a simple wolf was the happiest creature on earth.

In the spheres of his black eyes glinting light from the stars shone like diamonds.

This light charmed the bird, who had never seen another pair of eyes but his own, and was abandoned in flight in this light thinking they were the eyes of the moon.

It was the prolonged howl that echoed the cry of the bird that made from mirror, opening a chasm between the icy slopes.

The bird as a meteorite that crosses the space precipitated in combustion and bursts in the air.
At the last moment these animals, printed in wolf's eyes light most ever seen on earth.

And never the phoenix reborn.

Sometimes It's Painful

Sometimes It's Painful


What I have watched in real as well as this virtual world/life that although you take all possible cares for others in all possible ways as per your capability, but there is no guarantee that even your smallest/insi

gnificant feeling will be taken care of by those whom you have taken care.

Funny world.

Sometimes I feel pity on such persons, but suddenly it strikes back to me that they are not responsible at all for such act.

All is happening due to their conditioning.


But never worry your caring nature/quality will pay that (happiness, contentment, peace, calmness, etc.) to you which you have never unexpected.

I remember Kabir's words (although not totally appropriate here)----Jo Toko Kata boye tahi Boye tu phool....toko phool ka phool hai vako hai tirsul----means---you go on sharing your flowers and in the end you will be left with flowers as you have that only....... meaning thereby...one can share whatever one has...one cannot share that one does not have.

Osho Misunderstood

Osho Misunderstood


The Osho was the only person in the whole spiritual history who was "really (in true sense)" against the "slavery" of sex.

But unfortunately there are many persons including his so called followers go on repeating Osh

o's thoughts as if Osho was for the sex only without quoting the context in which he said in favour of sex.

It is unfortunate to see the thoughts of the people branding him as a sex ambassador and the so called followers quoting Osho in such a way as if Osho's message was for or to indulge in sex.

They are simply stupids as Osho used to say about such persons.

They have not understood Osho at all.

In the book "Sex To Super-consciousness" because of which he is also known as Sex Guru , there is not a single word/sentence which is even near single x category.

In this book itself he has beautifully explained in scientific way "how he is really against slavery of sex."

In this background I have posted a few thoughts of Osho on sex.

The mind is not one's reality.

The mind is not one's reality...

it is a false interpretation....

One is not the mind, one has never been a mind, one can never be the mind...

That is one's problem....

...one has become identified with something which is not

and

then worry on

how to manage it, how to govern it, how to prevent anarchy...

From Satish Kumar wall