WHY WE MISS THE BUS IN RELATION TO A MASTER ?????

WHY WE MISS THE BUS IN RELATION TO A MASTER ?????


WE THINK THAT WE CAN  PREDICT MASTER’S NEXT MOVE  ON THE BASIS OF HIS/HER POSSESSION OF THINGS AND OUTER BEHAVIOURS WHILE MASTER IS ALWAYS UNPREDICTABLE.


IF SOMEONE IS PREDICTABLE THEN HE/SHE CAN NEVER BE A MASTER AT ALL.


EVEN MASTER HAS ALSO LOST THE CAPABILITY OF PREDICTING HIS/HER NEXT MOVE AS THERE IS NONE WHO IS GOING TO PREDICT BECAUSE THE EGO (INFLUENCE OF CONDITIONING OVER ACTIONS WHICH IS SEEN AS COMPULSIVE BEHAVIOUR/ACTIONS) WHICH PREDICTS AND WAS JUST APPEARING TO BE  PRESENT, HAS GOT DISSOLVED FOR EVER .


THAT IS WHY THEY ARE CALLED FREE/ENLIGHTENED/REALISED  AS THE INFLUENCE OF CONDITIONING OVER THEIR ACTIONS I.E. THE DARKNESS , IS NO MORE THERE.


BUT OUR THIS ACTION OF PREDICTING MASTERS ON THE BASIS OF OUTER BEHAVIOURS AND POSSESSION OF THINGS  HAPPENS DUE TO EGO (INFLUENCE OF OUR CONDITIONING).
 
THEY WERE CHILD AND THEN GOT FULLY CONDITIONED AS THERE WAS NO WAY OUT, BUT TO BE CONDITIONED AND THEN “SOMEHOW” CAME OUT OF INFLUENCE OF CONDITIONING AND AGAIN BECAME CHILDLIKE BUT RETAINING THE WHOLE MEMORY  OF  WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE GETTING FREEDOM FROM THE CONDITIONING.

THEY ARE JUST LIKE SMALL CHILDREN (MAY BE UP TO 3-5 YEARS—  NOT YET FULLY CONDITIONED) AND ANIMALS, ABOUT WHICH MAKING PREDICTION IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.


FURTHER THE MASTER  CAN UNDERSTAND  US EASILY AS THE MEMORY OF GOING THROUGH THE STAGE OF HAPPENING DUE TO INFLUENCE OF CONDITIONING ,IS VERY MUCH INTACT IN THEM.


IN CONTRAST TO THE MASTERS  WE CAN NEVER UNDERSTAND THEM AS WE HAVE NOT SEEN THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PICTURE UNLIKE THEM.


BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE GO ON MAKING ASSESSMENT/JUDGEMENT OF MASTERS' GENUINENESS/RELIABILITY UNCONSCIOUSLY UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF OUR CONDITIONING ON THE BASIS OF THEIR OUTER BEHAVIOURS AND SO CALLED THEIR POSSESSION OF THINGS .



THIS IS THE PRIMARY/BASIC REASON OF MISSING THE BUS .

HEART OF THE GITA

HEART   OF   THE   GITA


I have tried  to summarise the core of Gita in different manner.


A child is born with the body(chariot) having five sense organs(five horses) who are untrained/unsynchronised because of absence of any training imparted to them. They (sense organs) start functioning without following any specific direction.

The life manifesting as child is nothing but Krishna (Consciousness/God/Awareness/Presence/Absolute) itself.


Stage of conditioning-The child starts getting information and the brain cells (neurons) start getting trained and simultaneously the sense organs also start getting synchronized with the little mind which the child has.

Birth of Arjuna- Further the attachment (ego or Arjuna) takes birth simultaneously with training of neurons.

Maturing Arjuna- By the passage of time due to more and more supply of information, training of neurons and development of further more and more softwares, the attachment also grows and become strong i.e. Arjuna (Ego) getting established/matured as per the training imparted by the outside factors (society) .

He (Arjuna) on his own also puts more and more inputs making it further strong.

Simultaneously the body (chariot) also comes to maturity say at the age of about 21 years. However he (Arjuna/Ego) is totally unaware about its (Krishna) nature as neither any related loaded information is fed nor any training is imparted to the neurons.

Here due to habits (unconscious/mechanical behavior) the sense organs still functions without any direction as the person even after maturity has never asked the question “whether these sense organs are meant for his use or what as no such input was fed into the system.”

He has not bothered till date what is the purpose behind the whole drama of the so called creation. He is as unconscious (in slumber) as others are.

He is in the stage of sudra (servicing to the sense organs unconsciously due to conditioning).

Awakening- "Somehow" due to some incident or any other inner or outer factor in this person the desire (thought loaded with energy) of knowing/finding out/searching the answers of existential questions (who I am, where I am, why I am,etc.) becomes intense.

This becomes the top most priority of his living.

He starts the search and he is known as seeker (a transitional state of ZEN sayings---sometimes river is river and sometimes not---a state of confusion).

He is now ready to face Krishna.

He tries to find out a person (Guru/Master etc.) as per information available in his/her psychosomatic instrument.

This is nothing but unknowingly searching Krishna (his own self which he actually is) in physical form as he is not aware about something which is beyond the grasp of sense organs and mind.

He "may" start enquiring on his own as per his understanding.

Battle of Mahabharta-----This is the stage of battle of Mahabharata (all sorts of mental and physical gymnastics as suggested by the Guru or as per his understanding).

Now the person is in the stage of "kshatriya" a fighter--trying to figure out the answers of the existential questions........but the conditioning creating problem. The person is trying to get rid of or to come out of conditioning-----battle with the thoughts.

Feeling of presence of awareness through inner/outer Guru (Gita) starts happening/revealing whenever the ego gets reduced i.e. understanding starts happening, but due to strong attachment (Ego) he repeatedly forgets himself.

This goes on for a long time.

This period represents the whole Gita.

Krishna tried all sorts of ways/methods to make Arjuna understands that you are ME, but in vain.

Arjuna was slipping downward to the trough again and again.

If somehow the total understanding (he is already that which he was seeking or he has never been out from that state or it was his misunderstanding that he was body-mind structure only or everything is happening i.e. nobody is doer) happens (enlightenment) to the person his all questions come to naught as all were appear to existing due to not knowing his true nature i.e. not questioning/investigating whatever he knew/understand.

Realising his true nature---Arjuna now becomes Brahmin (Dwij i.e. second birth) i.e. he comes to know that he is already Brahman/God/Krishna........means the feeling/knowledge of separation comes to naught.

Here represents the showing of Vishwaswarupa by Krishna after which Arjuna as ego gets annihilated on realizing his true nature as Brahman.


After realisation the name/word Arjuna/I remains for name sake and has its utility value but without attachment (load due to misunderstanding).

Now he now knows that he is no other than Krishna (awareness) .

Now Arjuna lives a natural life i.e. has realised he was living in a mechanical/unconscious way due to influence of conditioning and he was ever free, but not knowing because of influence of conditioning.

Now after happening of the clarity he knows that--

EVERYTHING IS AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE MOMENT.

THE IDEA/CONCEPT OF DOERSHIP IS ALTOGETHER FALSE.

HE (AS HE DID HAVE UNDERSTANDING OF HIMSELF) DOES NOT EXIST.

EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE IS IN ITS NATURAL STATE (AS IT IS---IN THE STATE OF ISNESS) AS THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO BE IN THE MOMENT.

ARE YOU REALLY AWARE OF THAT WHICH YOU ARE SHARING ??

ARE YOU REALLY AWARE OF THAT WHICH YOU ARE SHARING ??


Have you ever thought what we are actually sharing with others whenever you share others' thoughts ?

Let us try to explore its intricacies.


Don't be under impression that you are sharing the message (meaning behind those words) of those quotes/thoughts stated by the writer of the thoughts.

"""In fact you are sharing your own understanding of those thoughts in the name/garb of those thoughts.""" That is why misunderstanding everywhere. Discussion goes on..goes on...no end.

Basically the words used in those thoughts carry impressions of your own understanding of those thoughts. It is like lice getting stuck to your hair and gets transported with the hair. Words in those thoughts are hair here.

Remember--------------"There is no way that you can share the understanding of the writer of the thoughts."

If they themselves (writer of the thoughts) could not communicate their messages when they were live, how the hell we can communicate what they meant by their thought.



Second part is the level of openness/understanding of the person who is reading those quotes/thoughts.

If his/her understanding is below your level of understanding he is going to absorb your understanding which is attached/stuck with those words and if his/her level is more compared to you he/she will not show any interest in those thoughts/quotes and will try to think and decipher the message on his/her own if he does not get a person having level of understanding/openness more than him/her.


Hence, my suggestion is that whenever you share others' thoughts you should be ready to explain them, if you have clearly understood...or whatever your understanding is, as others are not on same level as of you.

Otherwise sharing has no meaning other than showing attention hunger...ego trip.

If you show your understanding then we can try to go deep into the matter by way of discussion/conversation/interaction which is the main purpose of our gathering here or anywhere.

In fact this is the main purpose of any discussion i.e. trying to come to a common understanding.

Purpose of Scriptures

In fact all the scriptures and sayings of the realised souls (Masters, Gurus, Mystics, etc.) are helpful in preparing/grooming oneself so that he/she "somehow" crosses/escapes the threshold limit and find him/her-self free from the influence of conditioning.

And finally he/she is able to see the things AS IT IS.

The scriptures and sayings are concerned with your conditioning only not with anything/anyone else.

They just help you in reaching the required escape velocity from the influence of conditioning.

It is like making the rocket reach the required escape velocity (a threshold limit) so that the the rocket comes/goes out from the earth's gravitational pull. (influence of conditioning---in the case oh human phyche).

DON'T GET CONFUSED

DON'T GET CONFUSED


There are two level of reality.


1. Practical Reality or Objective Reality----------Subject and object both present.------Day to day experiences..... at which level that is not important...within the grasp of mind-brain system...whether the so called worldly or the so called spiritual (out of wordily)....all happening within the feeling/knowledge of separation...........from the angle of the so called duality.-----This is a truth about which everyone is aware.

2. Unpractical Reality-----Subject and Object both missing......Beyond the grasp of mind-brain system..........non-dual state..........no mind state.....unknowable........only can be imagined........ conceptual.........so called subjective reality.......can never be proved by any means if at all there is any.......as the Masters/Gurus say.....the separation among experiencer(subject), the object of experiences and the process of experiencing comes to naught ....will remain unproved forever......if proved then that will come under first category................God, Soul, Now, Moment, Enlightenment, etc..all such abstract words fall in this category.


But unfortunately what happens is that wile discussing we mix both and get confused. If we can remain aware of the above the confusion can be reduced to a great extent if not eliminated.

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Logic and Rationale

THERE  DOES  NOT  EXIST  ANY  THOUGHT  WHICH  FALLS  BEYOND  LOGIC


[Just go through]


There does not exist any thought expressed or unexpressed which cannot be brought under the purview of logic and rationality.


“Whatsoever has been expressed till date”,

“whatsoever is being expressed now” and

“whatsoever will be expressed in future”

“by way/in the form” of spoken or written words or by any other means,

are all fall in the realm of mind as they are the expressions of thoughts which themselves are interpretations of impulses done by brain-mind structure  only instrument available with us for this purpose.



Hence all of them irrespective of field (including spirituality and religion) from which they belong are subject to logic and rationalization.

There is no way out howsoever one may claim of being beyond logic. All claims are due to ignorance/misunderstanding.



If somebody thinks that some words/phrases/sentences (howsoever they holy/sacred may be)

"said/written by/in"

"Masters/Guru/Gods/scriptures" are beyond logic

then understand that

the concerned person’s capacity to understand/comprehend is still below the threshold limit of understanding /comprehending, so far as those words/phrases/sentences are concerned.





Hence instead of resorting to rigidly believing in the those thoughts which are supposed to be beyond logic,

one should try to upgrade/uplift his own level of understanding up to the threshold limit so that after which those thoughts come into the field of logic and rationality.



All the Masters try to express the inexpressible (beyond the understanding /comprehension/perception of sense organs and mind) with the help of words (mostly metaphors/ pointers) in order to make us understand logically and rationally with the help of our mind which is fortunately or unfortunately the only tool available with us.



Hence all words are subject to logic and rationalization.




All the masters were human beings only and their minds were working exactly just like us.

They all are expressing "about the so called truth" as per their own mind's conditioning (data/programmes or training of brain cells).




The only difference between their way of functioning and our way of functioning (as narrated by them only)

is that

in their case "thoughts have lost their grip on their actions" while "we are in total grip/clutch of thoughts", effects of which are reflected in our actions .

In other words they are detached from thoughts appearing on their mental screen while we are attached to them.




This is only because we are not aware about grip of thoughts while they are fully aware

and

due to that awareness only they have known/realized what they call freedom / salvation / moksha / kaivalya / realization / atmasakshatkar/ Gyana etc.

DESIRED TRANSFORMATION IN ATTITUDE MAY HAPPEN ON ITS OWN EFFORTLESSLY

ARE YOU REALLY AWARE WHAT IS HAPPENING INSIDE OF YOU IN THE MOMENT AT THE THOUGHTS STAGE/LEVEL.................??????????????????


[ Perhaps the most important FACTUAL ISSUE to ponder over ]



In the waking state right from morning to night as well as in dreaming state,

we (body-mind structure) are trying "to get rid of/to fulfill" thoughts/desires (spiritual thoughts/desires included)

which are continuously appearing into our the so called mind

due to

happening of interpretations of impulses (produced due to various outside and inside known/unknown factors/stimuli) reaching the brain through nervous system.



However this ("getting rid of/ fulfilling of" thoughts/desires) is happening perhaps inside without us being aware of it i.e. without our knowledge.



Take simple example to understand this factual position of our unawareness.

In the morning after waking up a thought related to having a cup of tea/coffee appears and is expressed by asking somebody “whether tea/coffee is ready”.

If the answer come “yes” then the thought(whether tea/coffee is ready) gets annihilated i.e. got rid of the concerned thought.

If answer comes “no” then another thought appears and expressed “what is the problem”.

It again is gotten rid by another answer.


The whole day or you can say the whole life this process of getting rid of thoughts is continuously going on albeit without our knowledge/awareness.


If somehow we become aware of this process which is going on unknowingly,

instantly we find that there is nothing to find...there is no goal to achieve.....everything is as it should have been in the moment as we are already established in the MOMENT.


"""Just ponder over,think and verify in your day to day life."""


"""DESIRED TRANSFORMATION IN ATTITUDE MAY HAPPEN ON ITS OWN EFFORTLESSLY"""